David Herzog via nettime-l on Sun, 12 Apr 2026 08:06:21 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> House of Saud: Was the Iran War Caused by AI Psychosis?



btw entertaining & provoking,

mind the difference between nettime.org and houseofsaud.com:

using traceroute 16 network hops are needed to reach nettime's server, while it takes only seven hops to get in touch with "The Royal Family".

Please excuse me to have shortened first two network hops to keep my traces by myself:

devuan@devuan:~$ traceroute nettime.org

traceroute to nettime.org (185.210.68.85), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets

 1  [...]
 2  [...]
 3  zrh-sa1-i.ZRH.CH.NET.DTAG.DE (217.239.50.226)  18.517 ms  18.795 ms  21.882 ms
 4  80.157.206.138 (80.157.206.138)  21.857 ms  21.834 ms  21.812 ms
 5  r1glb2.core.init7.net (5.180.135.182)  22.929 ms  24.038 ms  24.375 ms
 6  r2glb1.core.init7.net (5.180.135.181)  24.647 ms  14.365 ms  14.766 ms
 7  r1zug1.core.init7.net (5.180.135.4)  14.235 ms  15.029 ms  15.463 ms
 8  r1bxo2.core.init7.net (5.180.134.84)  16.591 ms  17.470 ms  17.923 ms
 9  r1bxo1.core.init7.net (5.180.134.83)  19.061 ms  19.469 ms  20.247 ms
10  r1zhi2.core.init7.net (5.180.135.54)  21.021 ms  15.418 ms  16.396 ms
11  r1zhi1.core.init7.net (5.180.135.119)  18.060 ms  18.420 ms  18.794 ms
12  r1brn2.core.init7.net (5.180.134.24)  20.630 ms  17.306 ms  18.876 ms
13  r1brn6.core.init7.net (5.180.134.16)  19.229 ms  19.595 ms  20.028 ms
14  r1brn4.core.init7.net (5.180.135.18)  21.621 ms  21.968 ms  22.278 ms
15  * * *
16  nettime.org (185.210.68.85)  18.697 ms  19.298 ms  19.849 ms

devuan@devuan:~$ traceroute houseofsaud.com

traceroute to houseofsaud.com (172.67.148.131), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets

 1  [...]
 2  [...]
 3  lon-sb2-i.LON.GB.NET.DTAG.DE (62.154.14.242)  39.533 ms lon-sb2-i.LON.GB.NET.DTAG.DE (217.239.58.45)  31.925 ms lon-sb2-i.LON.GB.NET.DTAG.DE (62.154.14.242)  40.545 ms
 4  ldn-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.50.18)  39.806 ms  40.499 ms  40.475 ms
 5  cloudflare-ic-339870.ip.twelve99-cust.net (62.115.151.125)  34.475 ms  40.426 ms  40.399 ms
 6  141.101.71.61 (141.101.71.61)  41.837 ms 141.101.71.97 (141.101.71.97)  26.045 ms 141.101.71.2 (141.101.71.2)  48.657 ms
 7  172.67.148.131 (172.67.148.131)  25.844 ms  26.502 ms  26.940 ms

all the best, david


On Sat, 11 Apr 2026, Sean Cubitt via nettime-l wrote:

hey Patrice
comme d’habitude, entertaining and provoking. The problem with AI is not that it is too clever: it is that humans are too stupid. Or too clever by half. If the Oval Office had had the best intelligence in the world – human or otherwise – it would always have been subordinated to the priorities of its incumbents. To distract from Epstein and the fifty other lawsuits pending in Washington and Jerusalem. To pitch for another term in office (and suspension of the Constitution in the US instance). To precipitate Armageddon if you are as mad as crusader Hegseth and his unforgivable Xtian pastors suspending even the ‘laws’ of war. To blag access to Iranian oil for your corporate donors.

Operation Epic Tantrum was an accident begging for an excuse to happen.

seán

Latest book: Good (aesthetic politics 2): https://www.gold.ac.uk/goldsmiths-press/publications/good/


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Ciao tutte.i,

I am not going to c+p this one, as I usually do. You will have to make the effort of opening the link. You will be intellectually rewarded, tho your already brutalised peace of mind might take a further hit.

https://houseofsaud.com/iran-war-ai-psychosis-sycophancy-rlhf

key sentence (immo):

"The irony at the centre of this story has the structure of a Greek tragedy." (and I may add, also its outcome)

Cheers, have a Spritz!

(bwo Virginie M, University of Amsterdam, with mitigated thanks ;-)


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